I guested on Guts, Grit & Great Business, with attorney Heather Pierce Campell. She is a fabulous business attorney who knows first-hand how stressed business owners can be when it comes to finances and running their business. Her job is to protect her clients. But how to help their financial stress? We talked about why talking about money is so hard, and how this starts for many of us in our childhoods. And we discussed the importance of putting together your own money team. We also dove into the fact that many business owners don’t know how much they need to make. How do they figure this out? And yes, we talked about the importance of sharing our money story and forgiving ourselves for past money mistakes.
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Time marks:
1:00 On enjoying life outside of business. Mikelann talks about her tango journey
8:00 Mikelann’s origin story– how she combined her love of finance with psychology to become a money coach
12:30 Our childhood experience with money– Learning—or not learning—about money
17:00 Putting together your money team
24:00 How to deal with feeling stressed about money
34:00 How much do you really need to earn?
39:00 Your money story as a great screen play
44:00 Remembering financial forgiveness
I sat down with Nicole 
I loved this half hour chat with Andrea, from Lead Like a Woman podcast. I shared the story of how I became a money coach, and why marrying the practical with the emotional side of money is so powerful. We also talked about how to make money FUN, and how to protect what you truly want, as opposed to keeping up with the Jones. And as always, we sprinkled in talk of tango, my other favorite topic.
Host Denise Vivaldo asked me back to her awesome podcast—Women beyond a certain age. The topic? How to beautify your money! Here is what I told Denise: “Beauty makes me feel like I am really living and savoring my life. So why would this be less true in our money and financial life? I want my financial life to be beautiful as well. I want to bring beauty to my money! Otherwise, it is a place of clutter and disorder (and conveys an internal message that I don’t care or honor my money—so really—since I haven’t made it a nice home, why should it stick around??!) Without beauty, my money life feels like that back kitchen drawer I resist opening, or the closet we have crammed full of stuff… So, we stay away…!”
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Angie Garner, of the Angie Garner podcast, and I talked about the “wild west” of finance these days. So many different payment apps and ways to “do” money. The answer lies in simplifying. Angie and I also talked about families and money. “Lifestyle bloat” makes us feel like we are spending and spending on our lifestyle but our income doesn’t seem to keep up. What is the answer? And last, we talked about brain chemistry and money. What happens in the brain when you spend on things you like, and end up overspending? What is the answer? Listen in and find out.
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Sarah Walton, a business mentor for women, is the host of Game on Girlfriend! Sara and I had a very lively discussion on the two main money personality types. I call them the “Liberty money personality” and the “Safe Harbor money personality”. Understanding this helps us understand our financial decisions better. Why do we do what we do? We also dove into how our money personality impacts us in relationships, and yes, in divorce. (Hint- we often partner up with an opposite money personality.) And of course, there is a silver lining to divorce—we become captain of our own ship. Last, we talked about how to avoid “money ADD”. Financial elegant simplicity is the answer. Game on, girlfriend! Listen in here:
I spoke with Jenn Foster and Melanie Johnson, of Elite Online Publishing, about how to get in touch with what you truly need and want. This is a game changer when it comes to feeling good about your spending, and staying out of debt. And how exactly do you get out of debt? We also talked about the magic of a spending plan, to create the life you want, and yes, we talked about how to make more money. Hard to believe we got that all in, in 25 minutes! Enjoy.
I had a fascinating conversation with T.H. and Jessica, of ExExperts Divorce Etc., on your personal money psychology, and how this comes into play during divorce. If you are divorced, or considering it, listen in so you can move more easily through the divorce process and feel better about money. Money is a huge stressor in divorce—knowing your psychology and what truly motivates you about money is a big help. This was one of my favorite interviews. You will be fascinated!